Welcome to another episode of No Free Refills, a podcast dedicated to the messy, beautiful collision of pop culture and coffee.

The focus of episode eight is the explosive Oprah Winfrey interview with American-born Meghan Markle, Duchess of Sussex, and her husband, Prince Harry. Perhaps you are familiar with it.

The entire interview is available to watch on CBS: All Access.

No holds are barred, no punches pulled—Baker and Lawrence go deep in this conversation, exploring centuries of colonial hierarchies and racist societal structures that impact how we think, act, and yes, even drink (it’s no accident they’re sipping tea on this episode). This is a fearless no-F’s-given broadcast and it makes for an incredible show.

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